What should an approximate file size be for a 192x144 mpg with a framerate of 15 and CBR of 600 with 8,000hz mono audio? I'm having a very hard time creating a small mpg. I have tried numerous combinations of resolution, framerates and bitrates and the file sizes never change by much. All have been coming out around 17 to 18mb for 2 minutes of video. Is this the smallest I will be able to get this using MPEG1? Thanks.

You need to change the stream setting to 'MPEG1 system(automatic)' or 'MPEG1 VCD(non standard).

ASHY

Thanks Ashy! Worked great!

hello again,

I have an editing application, discreet edit, that can export and mpeg 2 stream thats just iframes. is there a way to use this as a source for TMPGE to convert to MPEG IBP For DVD? I like the results i am getting out of my edit application, but i need tmpeg to force i frames for chapter markers, so if i do the primary encoding out of edit and encode on TMPG i should get the best of all worlds.

i know i can convert my i frame stream to avi, then back to IBP mpeg 2, but i would rather do it as mentioned above, or at least try it once to see the results!

thanx in advance

bee eph

I don't understand your problem. Just load the MPEG2 file into TMPG and encode.

ASHY

Some people claim DVD2AVI has a higher quality Mpeg decoder than the ones allowed by TMPGEnc so I always us that to frameserve Mpeg into TMPGEnc.

What is the source format of your edited material? Mpeg 2 I-Frame-only is pretty lossy for Hi-res camera source at anything less than 25Mbs. On such material, consider exporting with Huffyuv Lossless Codec.

For a compact, lossless archive, encode at 15Mbs IBP 4:2:2P@ML using TMPG. Frameserve that back into TMPG with DVD2AVI when reencoding to DVD spec.

My motto is: Allow NO loss between source and archive. (And it is amazing that software at such a low cost makes this possible.)

thanx guys

1. when i try to open my mpeg2 iframe stream in tmpg i get an error message saying the file format is not supported, so i thought is wasnt supported (duh). same w virtual dub.
why am i getting this? waht can be conflicting w the mpeg 2 decoder?
any guidelines would be appreciated

2. i can export out of edit as Truevision Motion jpeg AVI, which i can then use a software codec and or virtual dub to get into tmpg, except i looks soft on type/text. I can also export a TGA sequence, but with the same outcome. tmpg makes the type soft. (the TGA sequence is about as lossless as it gets)

3. My built in encoder is ligos go motion, and if i do cbr at max i get a 10 Mbps file, so i though i would try that

thanx again

bee eph

back again

i resolved the issue of not being able to decode mpeg2 i streams

i had already had PowerDVD installed on the Machine, thereby giving me the Cyberlink Codec to decode mpeg 2. By raising its priority, i was able to read my mpeg2 file!!

how come it seems that you have to always raise a codecs priority? isnt there someway that the software can just try ALL the codecs in the listing??

btw, the experiment of decodinfg an i straem into a dvd stream yeilded soft type as well,,, so after all that, i still have to find a better way

thanx again

bee eph

Hello everyone this is my first post here. I am new to all of this but I have learned a lot
reading from this forum. The question I have is why the auto pc shut down switch in TMPGE Plus is not always available. This is a pretty handy tool to have. This is the down loaded Licensed version 2.510.49.157.


Thanks

This does not directly answer your question, but for an alternative approach, see:
http://www.dvdrhelp.com/forum/userguides/127766.php

Regards,
Eric J

Th make the shutdown check box appear every time simply click File>Output to file>MPEG file.

ASHY

Thank

Asly it works.

I recently upgraded to WMP ver9 from ver7 and ever since that time whenever I try to encode an avi file to mpg(vcd)I get an "Exception 10H in module mp43dmod.dll" error.The program shuts down when I hit the OK button.Before the upgrade to WMP 9.0 TMPEnc 2.510 was working fine.What gives?

Rob

The Problem is That you should not have upgraded to WMP9, there is a Major conflict between MP9 and Tmpgenc, But it looks like the actual error you are getting is Due to the Mpeg4 codec which could be caused by WMP9, do a System restore to before you installed WMP9....

Minion,

I do not have system restore as I am running WIN 98.Do you have any idea if this conflict between TMPGEnc and Windows Media Player ver. 9.0 will be resolved?

Rob

I am using DVD to VCD with SmartRipper DVD2AVI and TMPGEnc. After browsing and adding the video and audio source, and selecting the proper TMPGEnc template, when I hit the start button I get the following error message can't load "p3package.dll" error. This is my first attempt at ripping from DVD to VCD, and I am determined to learn how. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

This is because you do not have all the Tmpgenc files in the same folder, ALL of the Files that come with Tmpgenc have to be in the Same folder ....

Much thanx..........You were right I had the .exe out of the folder, I deleated all the files reinstalled and created a shortcut....in the proccess of making my first VCD...I will be back in 12 to 15 hours to let you know how it came out.

I keep on getting this error when i'm trying to convert a avi to mpg using guidelines from "Coldfeets guide to quailty ripping" it keeps on saying this when i hit start, "Write error occurred at address 77F536F7 of module 'ntdll.dll' with 00000000" can someone tell me whats wrong

sorry, to say i can't help you..... only that i have the same problem as you.
i tried it several times and sometimes it even worked! but the filesize got way too big. i'm talking about 2,5GHz instead of 800MB. avi->vcd!
it looks like the .dll is corrupt. reinstalled service pack, but it didn't work.
so for me the same question: can somebody help, please?

For me it was missing audio frames when transcoding MPEG2 (tystreams) to DVD-standard. Playing the entire show in TMPGEnc's setting->Advanced->Source range was a tedious exercise, but it did show me where in hte show things went pear-shaped. Try converting your audio to a wav, though you're going to end-up with audio sync issues. Sorry!

i used to have the same problems encoding to dvd spec.

sometimes vbr audio in the avi's caused problems so i had to just encode the video and audio seperately, but more times than not it was errors in the video that caused the crashes. i had floating point errors, ntdll.dll errors and runtime exceptions... all happening amongst eachother.

i started frameserving with virtuadub and this seems to have sorted all my problems. its a lot more tedious than what it should be... but what are you gonna do? its either that or errors so i made my choice :)

Hi, i have the movie bowling for columbine, it is coded with xvid.
But anyway, when i try to convert the divx with tmpgenc, it doesn't convert the audio, it is just blank.
I have installed the nimo pack, and than mediaplayer said the sound of the movie was a morgan codec.
I deleted the nimo pack, and reinstalled:

xvid
ac3 filters
divx5.03
show filter

all my divx are playable and convertable, but not this movie, virtualdub cannot recognize the sound, but it seems mediaplayer can.
And now mediaplayer says the sound is ac3.
What am i doing wrong ?
help me please
greetz
Mark Dekker

try extracting the audio with a program called avimux.
set AUDIO PREROLL to 100
and set INTERLEAVE to 100
then press go.

hmmm i tried but tmpgenc still doesn't read the audio track...what can i do now ?

The Audio is AC3 and Tmpgenc in Most Cases will Not Read AC3, so use AVI-MUX to extract the audio to WAV format then use the wav file as the audio source, or you Can extract it as an AC3 file then use "Headac3he" to encode it to Mp2 then mux the Mp2 to the mpeg file, either way will work...

But how do i get the sound out with avimux, all it does is making avi files

I am getting a illegal pointer operation, i think this movie is just not convertable

Pls help me to add AC3 to my divx movie... I never tried it but I like to try
Can u guys help me out ..

((((*** Live Heavy Always***)))

Pls help me to add AC3 to my divx movie... I never tried it but I like to try
Can u guys help me out ..

((((*** Live Heavy Always***)))

You can not use Tmpgenc for this, download a Program called "AVI-MUX" it will Mux your AC3 to your AVI Video...

Thanx Minion,,

My problem is that I want to do this with a Divx avi file downloaded from the internet ,,,,,,Is it possible and if so tell me how!!

I just told you How..Download AVI-MUX!!!!

I have encoded two different avi movies to a non-standard vcd file both using cq method, quality 85, max bitrate 4500, min bitrate 2000, no padding. One of the vcd's plays in my dvd player while the other one stutters in one part of the movie.
The movie that stutters I have tried encoding on different cbr rates and anything over 2500 will stutter.
Is this a case of my dvd player will not read over 2500 but the one file that works never gets that high or is there another explanation?
Thanks in advance
Slipster

Yes you are Right, the Bitrate is To high for your DVD Player to Read, you have reached the Max bitrate for your Player....

I have sort of the same problem, when i convert a divx movie to vcd, it goes out of sync after 15 minutes, than the picture is trying to catch up with the sound...how can i fix this, or is it just my dvd player ?

How come the other movie plays OK then?

They Play Because the Bitrate didn"t get as high in those files, Pluss Tmpgenc has Really Bad Bitrate controll so the Bitrate will sometimes Go Much higher than you set it, this For me is the Biggest Flaw that tmpgenc has and Why I can"t Use it as Much is I would Like...These Bitrate spikes can be lessened By not haveing the Max and min Bitrate set far apart, Meaning that If I set the Bitrate to VBR 0kbs Minimum and 5000kbs Max then the Possibility of Bitrate spikes are much higher than if I set the Bitrate to say 2000kbs min and 3000kbs max....

Cheers Minion. Good clear advice, as always.

I'm working with an mpg file of 830 MB; i output a file containing the first half of the big file, but now i can't do the same with its final part. I always get an "Illegal video stream" message.
Nevertheless, there is no problem if i do the same from minute 2 to minute 3 or the like, but never if i want to begin from minute 47.

Any suggestion?

Thanks in advance

Yes..I suggest useing the Real Mpeg editor...Tmpgenc"s Mpeg editor is Not very Reliable so try something like "Mpeg2VCR" to edit your Files...

I have installed the latest TMPGEnc and am trying to convert MPEG2 to MPEG1 for burn to VCD. This was working with the freeware version, at one point. Suddenly it stopped. The freeware version said I had run out of my MPEG-2 evaluation, strange since I had just got it yesterday, but, no matter, I bought the current product. Keep getting the "can not open or unsupported" message. There is no MPEG2 plugin listed in the Environmental Settings. I have installed the latest IndeoXP MPEG codecs from Ligos. No change. Things work great in WMP9. Any ideas?

That could be your Problem, There is a Major Conflict with Media Player 9 and Tmpgenc so you should roll Back your system to before you installed MP9...And if for some reason after rolling Back your system you still can not encode Mpeg2 files with Tmpgenc then there is still a Better way of encodeing Mpeg2 files with Tmpgenc, Use DVD2AVI to make a D2V project File and to de-mux the audio then just encode the D2V file to Mpeg1 and Mux the audio to the video..There is no need to Encode the audio cuz it is allready in the correct format for Mpeg and re-encodeing it will just degrade the audio quality, and DVD2AVI is a Better Mpeg2 decoder and a Faster Mpeg2 decoder that the ones Tmpgenc uses...

I don't know if this is related to WMP9 or not, but there is one way that the Ligos MPEG2 decoder can break TMPGEnc on an XP machine and that's if, somehow, it gets set to use the video overlay mixer.

You'll need to open the old Windows Media Player v6 on your machine to check it out (if you've got XP, WMP6 was installed along with WMP8). Just click the Start button on your desktop, then click on Run and enter MPLAYER2 as the file to open. Once WMP6 is running, open an MPEG2 video file (it must be MPEG2, not MPEG1). While it's playing, choose Properties from the File menu, then click on the Advanced tab on the Properties sheet. In the list of filters shown, you should see "Ligos MPEG Video Decoder." Double-click on that name and make sure, in the Filter Properies that pop up, that "Use Overlay Mixer" is NOT checked.

If "Use Overlay Mixer" is chosen for the Ligos MPEG Video Decoder, the Ligos MPEG2 decoder disappears from the Environmental Settings list in TMPGEnc (at least on my machine) and TMPGEnc will not load any MPEG2 videos.

The one advantage I can see of having "Use Overlay Mixer" checked is that WMP will then display 480x480 SVCDs/MPEG2s in the proper aspect ratio (by stretching them to 640x480); when it's not checked, WMP plays them at 480x480 and they appear distorted. I wish someone could resolve this confilct and get TMPGEnc to work with the Overlay Mixer on, 'cause I'm tired of previewing all my SVCDs all scrunched up in WMP (other programs, like PowerDVD, take way longer to open than WMP and are not practical for just giving something a quick look).

Hope this helps.